disposable scooters

a couple of years ago i bought a printer for about $25. the print quality was great for such a cheap printer. it did a decent job on photos, and it was perfect for term papers. but when it finally ran out of ink, i realized what the catch was. it would cost me about twice the original price of the printer to replace the ink. i had purchased a disposable printer. it was more economically viable for me to get rid of the "used" printer and to buy a new one than it was for me to buy new ink cartridges.

i bring this up on a scooter blog because a friend of mine is buying a used scooter for a couple hundred bucks. he knows it's a terrible scooter, but he's excited anyway. you see, at that price it's a disposable scooter.

he was telling me about it. he couldn't remember the brand, but he said, "the only good thing it has is the remote start".

oh. so you're getting a Tank. i know a thing or two about Tank...

in my opinion, any company that offers a three year, 36,000 mile warranty which covers nothing is more than a little shady.

a few of the highlights:

Limited Warranty:
36 Months or 36,000 Miles for ALL On-Road TANK, VISION & URBAN Series.

sounds pretty good, no? my genuine stella only came with a 1-year, 5,000 mile warranty. maybe tank actually stands by their products?

let's take a closer look.

PARTS ONLY FOR ALL PRODUCTS
THIS LIMITED WARRANTY COVERS THE FOLLOWING PARTS ONLY:
Engine long block assembly, including all internal lubricated parts...

hmmm. it looks like this warranty only covers parts. that means you'll have to pay labor, which can get a bit expensive. and what's this about "internal lubricated parts"?

TRANSFER CASE: All internal lubricated parts contained within the transfer case. The transfer case itself will be covered if damage solely as a result of the mechanical failure of one or more of the internal lubricated components contained within the transfer case...

there's that phrase again. "internal lubricated parts". it looks like only some parts in the transfer case are covered under this amazing warranty. in fact, the transfer case itself is only covered if it's determined that it was damaged by the failure of these "internal lubricated parts".

DIFFERENTIAL: All internal lubricated parts... The drive axle housing itself if damaged solely as a result of the mechanical failure of one or more or the internal lubricated components...

TRANSMISSION (Automatic or Standard): All internal lubricated parts... The transmission case itself if damaged solely as a result of mechanical failure of one or more of the internal lubricated components...

more about "internal lubricated components". so the engine block, the differential, the axle, the axle housing, the transfer and the transmission case aren't covered under the warranty.

what exactly is covered?

well, none of the "accessories" are:

including but not limited to electrical components of all types (distributor, alternator and all sensors and electrical control devices), fuel systems, gaskets, seals, filters, mounts linkage and fluids... U-joints, linkage, mounts... modulators, governors, electrical controls... are not covered by this agreement.

i don't know that i'd classify the electrical system of a scooter as an accessory. it doesn't run without electrical components...

but it gets better.

The following items are not covered under any circumstance.
Tires, rims, body panels, fuses, forks, shocks, gaskets, light bulbs, seats, CV Boots, oil filter, air filter, fuel filter, filters, clutch wear parts, cables, drive belt, chain, spark plug, any part made from rubber, belts, brake linings and/or pads, batteries, sprockets, external springs, clips, nuts, bolts, fasteners, frame.

amazing. the frame is specifically excluded from the warranty. if your frame breaks in half--which it might, if the metal and the weld quality i've seen on some Tank scooters is any indication--it won't be covered.

REPAIRED COMPONENTS: If the components are repaired under the terms of this agreement, they will be repaired or replaced with component parts of like kind and quality.

that's great. so when one of the few things that is actually covered by this warranty dies, it will be replaced with another one of the exact same quality. that's reassuring. and you get to foot the bill for shop fees and parts shipping on top of that.

congratulations. you have purchased a disposable scooter. when it dies (not if, but when) it will actually be cheaper for you to buy a new one than to try to repair the broken one. anyone who buys this scooter is contributing to our single-serving, disposable society. you ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

but at least it comes with a remote start!

So you wanna race or what?

So you wanna race or what?

yep. you're goin' down,

yep. you're goin' down, sammy.

a race I hear? i am getting

a race I hear? i am getting my mini skirt and silk scarf to be the official race starting .. person...

After seeing me in drag, and you still want to have a race: May the worst scooter be thrown into the self-serving, disposable product loving dumpster behind Walmart.

-Jon Sandy

please. don't.

please. don't.

TANK SCOOTERS

TANK SCOOTERS UGHH!!
probably the worst chinease
junk one can purchase,good price but you will pay shortly
with this mistake.faulty wiring,faulty connectors,soldered joints with tape,shorts in wiring harness due to tape falling off and shorting out,engine bolts not properly tourqed,bulbs burn out monthly
cheap clutch and belt,ignition:
CDI unit does not last long and i can go on.Remember these scooters can be time consuming
due to all the screws you have to take out to repair whatever that whent wrong.PS you cannot take this scooter to a Honda Shop,they will throw you out
99% of scooter shops will not work on chinease scooters or stock parts your are on your own buddy.Manuals are onother joke,replacement parts are very
expensive how about $10.00 for
spark plug,PS you cannot purchase plugs,bulbs,ignition coils,voltage regulators,or anything else electrical for these scooters at your corner auto supply that includes fuel lines or filters gas or air.If
own a 50cc and want to make it go faster be prepared to shell out 4 to 600 dollar thats if it doesnt brake down.49-50cc scooters can be made to go 45 to 60mph with upgrades.
good luck
steve

There are too many greedy

There are too many greedy people in the world. TANK is great for me. I kow how to repair my scooters when something goes wrong. TANK is NOT junk. There are many GREAT TANK scooter group online forums with a wealth of knowledge. TANK is cheap, but NOT junk!!!

Tank scooters really are

Tank scooters really are awful. That's not to say that you can't get some usable life out of them if you're willing to do your own repairs. And if you don't care about a warranty.

It is to say that they're not for most people. Most people expect a scooter that starts when they want it to. They expect a scooter to come with all the bolts pre-tightened, so nothing falls off the first time they hop on and go for a ride. Most people expect a "warranty" to actually cover their scooter. Tank fails miserably at meeting any of these expectations.

I myself personaly own a tank

I myself personaly own a tank scooter bought it brand new for 1100$ say . I put 168 miles on it, and went down a hill at 40 mph the the scooter bogged out and died because the carb crapped out. Take my advise buy a good scooter to start with! The rukus and the zuma are pretty cool..:P

ohh almost forgot, the cheap

ohh almost forgot, the cheap man pays double!

I have a Tank 50cc Moped and

I have a Tank 50cc Moped and the drive belt broke. So, after replacing the drive belt it won't start. It cranks over and sounds like it wants to start. But, won't. It cranks over and is actually burning the fuel in the cylinder but won't start. I am certain that it is getting fuel and I know there is spark. I am starting to suspect that it somehow jumped time when the drive belt broke. So, again. The engine turns over and it goes faster and faster chugging along like it want's to start but won't. Anyone else got any ideas?

I might as well add

I might as well add something...I have a Tank TK150T-H. Three months. Already have 980 miles. Sure there were a couple of quickie repairs I did right away....minor like a cable rubbing, a clip missing, idle too slow. But, it runs great, gets 72mpg, goes like h..., no vibrations at 60mph and feels very secure. Price is right, bike is right. If you want perfection, you'll pay for it.

Most Tank scooters run pretty

Most Tank scooters run pretty well for the first summer... After that, you might as well throw them away. That's why they're "disposable" :)

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